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My earliest known Leddin ancestor is William Leddin of County Limerick, Ireland. William was born about 1809, the son of Patrick Leddin and Margaret Gleeson. William’s only known siblings are Mary born 1813 and Margaret born 1815. Margaret appears to be the youngest child of Patrick and Margaret.
(Some websites have linked other children to Patrick and Margaret Leddin but there is no evidence to confirm this). William married Johanna Condon and their children were born in the parishes of Hospital, Emly and Knocklong situated close to the border of Co. Limerick and Co. Tipperary, Ireland.
William, his wife, Johanna, and their children came to Australia in 1857 and settled in the area around Yambuk, Victoria.
There are a large number of Leddin families living in Co. Limerick and Tipperary during the 19th century. Therefore to suggest that all Leddins are closely related and that Patrick Leddin and Margaret Gleeson are their forebears is making a huge assumption.
The following is an article written by my sister regarding her research into a Patrick and Timothy Leddin.
Which Patrick Leddin was Timothy Leddin’s brother ?
My 3 x great grandfather is Patrick Leddin of Co. Limerick, Ireland; he would have been born approximately 1780. Patrick had married Margaret Gleeson born 1782, their son William was born about 1809/10. William married and had 9 children, they migrated to Victoria, Australia in 1857, 2 daughters had migrated in 1855.
Timothy Leddin born about 1792 Co. Limerick, Ireland married Mary Judith Murphy, some descendants of their son William Leddin and wife Mary Meagher/Maher, (and their son, William Leddin and his wives Catherine Doherty and Hannah Irwin) migrated to Chicago, Illinois, USA and also New York.
Descendants from Timothy’s line started corresponding with descendants from Patrick’s line, as these two branches originated from the same region in Ireland. A descendant of Timothy’s thought that Timothy had a brother named Patrick. I wasn’t that convinced that my Patrick was that person, as he would have been about 12 years older than Timothy (1792). However I feel sure that there is a relationship of some sort between the two.
Owing to the availability of more online records in recent years I’ve been doing more research into this matter. Being aware that records from Ireland are very patchy and not very reliable as to accuracy, I have however been able to piece together a bit of information. First of all, I looked into the online indexes of all marriages and baptisms from Counties Limerick and Tipperary, Ireland for the name Leddin (plus spelling variations). I found a few Patrick Leddins in about the correct search range, of particular interest was Patrick Leddin who married Honora Hourigan. There were baptism records for 3 sons ie Patrick 1830, William 1832 and Timothy 1834 at Hospital, Co. Limerick. Patrick and Honora’s marriage year was recorded as 1836, but maybe this was mistakenly recorded due to poor records. There were also baptisms for William (1837), Edmond (1839), James (1841), and Honora (1843) whose parents I hadn’t established, but could have been children of Patrick and Honora.
Recently I found that this couple had migrated to Chicago. I also came across the following brief newspaper articles.
18 May 1863 – Cork Examiner – Cork, Cork, Republic of Ireland
“THREE-YEAR-OLDS” LEFT FOR AMERICA. Patt Leddin, who with an activity and an energy peculiarly Irish, brandished at fair and market the “cloghalpeen,” with family consisting of ten persons, has left for America. Leddin, brave, powerful athletic man, had four sons …
19 May 1863 – Freeman’s Journal – Dublin, Dublin, Republic of Ireland
… peculiarly Irish brandished at fair and market the “clughalpeen,” with a family consisting of ten persons, has left for America. Leddin, a brave, powerful, athletic man, had four sons who equalled himself, and who in every respect imitated the father ID fight …
So now I knew that Patrick and his family had migrated in 1863, I found that the following family members had migrated to New York: Patrick (1801) and Honora (1813) and children Bridget (1833), Patrick (1836), William (1838), Timothy (1840), Johanna (1842), Catherine (1844), James (1846), Honora (1848) and Mary (1850).
These birth years are approximate from ages listed on the shipping record, they don’t all match the baptism years, but again this may be due to poor/illegible records.
The family soon went to Chicago and I found that the following children had married – Timothy to Margaret Madden, Catherine to Patrick Quinlan, James to Frances Hayes and Mary to John Ambrose. William and Honora appear to have remained unmarried.
The names Patrick and Timothy are repeated down the generations in this line, whereas in my Patrick Leddin branch, the name Timothy doesn’t appear once.
It would seem feasible that the descendants of Timothy Leddin (1792) would go to Chicago where there were relation already living, or had been living.
So it is my opinion that the Patrick Leddin (1801) who married Honora Hourigan and Timothy Leddin (1792) who married Mary Judith Murphy are siblings and not the Patrick Leddin (1780) who married Margaret Gleeson.
There was also a Patrick Leddin who married Johanna Cusack in 1810 and a Timothy Leddin who married Bridget Gorman in 1817. So randomly selecting two families and putting them together without evidence to support it is not a good genealogical practise.