More Captain Charles Pye VC

I was just re-reading the Shropshireregimentalmuseum.co.uk article about Captain Charles Pye VC.

Their article says that Charles was from a family of railway workers.  This is incorrect as Charles’s father, Thomas, was a brick and tile maker and his brothers had varying occupations: Timothy was a coal miner, Philip was a shoemaker and Peter was a spring latch maker.

Where the assumption that Charles was from a family of railway workers may have come from the knowledge that Charles’s uncle, George Pye was a plate layer for the railways.

The following article appears on the site:

“A notification of Pye’s V.C. award was published in The Staffordshire Advertiser on 8th January 1859 :

Among the brave soldiers who recently had the V.C. conferred upon them, we find the name of Sergt. Major (now Ensign) Charles Pye of the 53rd Regiment. Ensign Pye was, we understand, educated at Stafford and his uncle is at the present time residing at Milford near this town.”

George Pye was the “uncle” residing at Milford and would have been one of the few relatives still living in the district of Stafford.  George and his sister, Mary Pye, raised Charles’s younger siblings after the death of their mother.  I am unable to determine if Charles spent any time with his uncle in Rickerscote during the years 1836 (when his father was gaoled) and 1840 (when Charles joined the Army).  Charles was 16 years of age when his father was convicted, therefore may have remained in their home in the Midlands.

One thing that interests me about Charles Pye, is the fact that he could speak Chinese.  I wonder where he picked up this skill – was it during his years in India or when he lived on the Thames, NZ, goldfields?

Please refer to earlier post on Captain Charles Pye VC.

 

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6 Responses to More Captain Charles Pye VC

  1. Jean says:

    Liz – I had a great-uncle (on my mother’s side not the one that’s related to you) in the 89th Punjabis during WW1. On his papers it says that he could speak Chinese and Japanese. I thought this was strange too. I wonder if there was some basic test they could do ?.
    Incidentally he was buried in the British Military Cemetery in Baghdad in 1917 – we never learn do we ?

  2. pleiadianprincess says:

    Hi. I am doing the family tree for a friend at the moment, on Charles Pye’ father, Thomas.

    Thomas was transported to Australia, after his wife, Charles’s mother died. The written information I have been provided with described some of his life here, and that of the children he had here with his next wife.

    I can see that Charles eventually came to live with him, in Victoria, Australia after being in New Zealand, and died there.

    I have just found that Thomas Pye is written about in a book about the early days in Melbourne, describing how he offers to build a house for his employer, when they were still living in a camp. The author of the book describes him as a great builder of houses. He refers to him as Joe Burge, instead of using his real name.

    Happy to provide you with any information about this other family in Australia, or put you in touch with my friend, who is a descendant of Charle’s father, Thomas.

    Tracey 🙂

    • sarah says:

      Hi Tracey! i would love to find out any info you have for Thomas or Charles

      i am a descendant from New Zealand and am trying to work out how Charles works into our family, as far as ive been told he is a great great great great? uncle and we are descended from Thomas’ first family. i would love to find out more because where i live we have a place named after him, Pyes Pa. my family also have a large chest of draws passed down through generations from him.

      • Pauline Newman says:

        Could Pyes Pa. be named after Charles James Pye our ancestor? He won he VC and was honoured for heroism in the Maori War. He was very much respected and places were named in his honour. Can’t recollect reading any outstanding contributions done by a Thomas Pye.

  3. Hi Tracey,

    Thanks for your comment. I have spent many years researching Thomas and Charles Pye and have written the book, “Bold Blood” about the pair. Please refer to the tab “Tapestry – the books” for details.

    I am descended from Thomas’s youngest son (from his second wife) Joseph Pye who married Mary Ann Wiseman.

  4. sarah says:

    hi there… could you please give me more info on Charles Pye? i am a descendant from New Zealand and am trying to work out how he works into our family, as far as ive been told he is a great great great great? uncle and we are descended from Thomas’ first family. i would love to find out more because where i live we have a place named after him, Pyes Pa. my family also have a large chest of draws passed down through generations from him.

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